Shoebridge, Sen David

Senator SHOEBRIDGE: We're talking about the history of UK designed platforms, which require very significant amendments to operate in an Australian environment. Another example we could point to would be the Hunter class frigates, which have cost an unknown amount of money to be readjusted to Australia's needs. Vice Adm. Mead : If we just stick to the submarines, as I said, the Oberon was a 1960s class designed submarine—