Senator URQUHART: Some of those clean energy technologies that you deal with, would they include non-renewable technologies such as carbon capture and storage and blue hydrogen? Mr Learmonth : Carbon capture and storage is expressly prohibited under the CEFC Act.

Senator McKENZIE: Everyone's going to get a prize on this one! Prof. Karoly : Thank you. First of all, it's critically important to recognise that within Australia there has been federal government investment in research on carbon capture and storage, and that has led to no large-scale commercially viable carbon capture and storage solutions in Australia, despite financial investment, for more tha

Senator WATERS: Okay. So, for example, for hydrogen, how low would it need to be to be considered clean hydrogen or green hydrogen as opposed to grey hydrogen? Ms Evans : You obviously have choices about how you produce hydrogen, whether it is from renewable resources, in which case it is considered to be zero emissions, or whether it is blue hydrogen. So fossil fuel based hydrogen using carbon ca

Senator WATERS: Can you give me the stats on that one, please? Ms Zerger : It's still starting. It was announced as a $141 million program—this is the carbon capture use and storage technologies program—and we're still in the process of finalising guidelines, so it hasn't yet opened for funding.

Senator HANSON ( Queensland — Leader of Pauline Hanson's One Nation ) ( 13:03 ): Sorry, the bill proposes to establish a regulatory system, okay? It's about enabling carbon dioxide to be pumped into the Australian seabed, and it's known as carbon capture and storage. A lot of Australians wouldn't even know, and I didn't even know, about that. I would like an explanation of what this bill is actual

Senator HANSON ( Queensland — Leader of Pauline Hanson's One Nation ) ( 18:31 ): I rise to speak on the Environment Protection (Sea Dumping) Amendment (Using New Technologies to Fight Climate Change) Bill 2023. This bill proposes to establish a regulatory system enabling carbon dioxide to be pumped into Australia's seabed through a technology known as carbon capture and storage. The bill also allo

Senator HANSON ( Queensland — Leader of Pauline Hanson's One Nation ) ( 11:06 ): Thank you. I just want to clarify the record here. Previously when I asked the minister about the leakages from carbon the minister said that there have been no leakages of carbon from carbon capture projects. Is that true? Is that your answer, Minister?

Senator HODGINS-MAY: Yes, but I'm curious about DFAT as well. So could you take on notice—maybe the answer will be there are none—any meetings that you as DFAT have attended or been involved in that are focused on carbon capture and storage. Mr Isbister : We'll take it on notice.

Senator HANSON ( Queensland — Leader of Pauline Hanson's One Nation ) ( 13:03 ): Minister, the bill proposes to establish a regulatory system enabling carbon dioxide to be pumped into the Australian seabed—a technology known as 'carbon capture and storage'. Would you like to explain that to me—and not only to myself but also to the public?

Senator HODGINS-MAY: Specifically in relation to this claim that CCS is supporting Japan's industrial decarbonisation, have you provided advice on that? Ms Quinn: The use of gas rather than coal is definitely a net reduction in emissions. If there's a reduction in fugitive emissions through the use of carbon capture and storage, that will also reduce overall emissions. So there's a sort of logical

Senator ROBERTS: Okay. Thank you. Minister, I point out that carbon dioxide is nature's essential trace gas, essential to all life on earth; I don't think it has anything to do with climate. This project will reduce carbon dioxide production from human activity dramatically, increase efficiency dramatically, reduce the price of steel—which will reduce inflation—and dramatically increase profit for

Senator COX: Do the strategic materials—using the terminology that you use in the policy—include any potential carbon capture and storage, or CCS, sites? Are they going to be mapped also? Mr Chesworth: Again, the—

Senator CADELL: You would hope that they would be doing that, anyway. Mr Parker: You would hope so. But this might be a slightly different record; this would be a record of what suppressors there were in the baseline period, what the removal of the suppressors had been, receipts, and a whole range of stuff for fencing, for example. That's not a simple process, necessarily. Many farmers choose to u

Senator ROBERTS ( Queensland ) ( 11:21 ): As a servant to the fine people of Queensland and Australia, I want to ask a question. If you want a perfect example of how insane the UN's net zero pipedream is, look no further than this bill, the Environment Protection (Sea Dumping) Amendment (Using New Technologies to Fight Climate Change) Bill 2023. Why? We're going to spend billions on pulling natura

Senator DAVID POCOCK ( Australian Capital Territory ) ( 10:52 ): We know how important it is to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. We heard from the Treasurer just last week in his address in Melbourne that further action is required for Australia just to meet its emissions reduction targets, which we know are not in line with what scientists say a wealthy nation like Australia that is one of the hi

Senator COLBECK: Or you can use your method. Mr Parker : What we've said is that we can actually reduce the amount of carbon by using techniques and methodologies, which is what we planned to do, and that's what we've done. I can give you the details of the cost so that you can get a feel for what that actually means.

Senator McALLISTER ( New South Wales — Assistant Minister for Climate Change and Energy ) ( 16:32 ): Senator Hanson-Young, I think I have answered your question. And in responding to the contribution, I will say that we just don't accept the characterisation that you've used in describing what's proposed here. Actually, the arrangements seek to ensure that any kind of carbon capture and storage ar

Ms STEGGALL ( Warringah ) ( 10:39 ): by leave—I move amendment (2) as circulated in my name: (1) Schedule 1, heading to Part 1, page 4 (line 2), omit " Export of carbon ", substitute " Carbon ". (2) Schedule 1, item 3, page 5 (lines 1 to 16), omit subsection 19(7B), substitute: (7B) The Minister may only grant a permit for controlled material that is carbon dioxide streams from carbon dioxide capt

Senator WHISH-WILSON: Sorry? CHAIR: I believe Ms Urquhart wanted to add to the answer, but I do need to share the call after that. We can always come back to you. Ms Urquhart? Ms Urquhart : Just building on Ms Quinn's answer, our role is very firmly in the regulatory space. Carbon capture and storage policy does sit with the climate portfolio. The questions do bring together the use of the technol

Senator HODGINS-MAY: Is it true that the cost of gas and black-coal fired generation with carbon capture and storage is similar to the cost of nuclear power, which would be twice as expensive as renewables? Dr Hilton : I will check the report and come back to you on that.